Legislature(2011 - 2012)HOUSE FINANCE 519

02/20/2012 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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+= HB 125 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL BOARD TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 279 EXTENDING CERTAIN BOARDS & COMMISSIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 279                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          "An Act extending the termination dates of the                                                                        
          Board of Nursing, the Board of Dental Examiners,                                                                      
          the Board of Barbers and Hairdressers, the Big                                                                        
          Game Commercial Services Board, the Alcoholic                                                                         
          Beverage Control Board, and the Alaska Seismic                                                                        
          Hazards Safety Commission; and providing for an                                                                       
          effective date."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:35:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze expressed  the  intent to  hear, but  hold                                                                    
both scheduled bills.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:37:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thomas  MOVED  to  ADOPT  the  proposed  Committee                                                                    
Substitute  for  HB  279,  Work  Draft  27-LS0944\I  (Martin                                                                    
2/20/12).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze OBJECTED  for discussion.  There being  no                                                                    
objection, the Committee Substitute was adopted.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MIKE  HAWKER,  SPONSOR, explained  that  the                                                                    
bill  extends  the sunset  dates  for  five boards  and  one                                                                    
commission.  Sunset   dates  are  a  periodic   exercise  to                                                                    
evaluate   the  performance   of  boards   and  commissions.                                                                    
Extensions  are recommended  by the  Legislative Budget  and                                                                    
Audit Committee. Last session an  amendment was added by the                                                                    
Senate  that  was  vetoed by  the  Governor,  therefore  the                                                                    
reauthorization of the boards  and commission was before the                                                                    
House  Finance  Committee   again.  Boards  and  Commissions                                                                    
recommended  for  extension are  the  Board  of Barbers  and                                                                    
Hairdressers (June 30, 2019);  the Board of Dental Examiners                                                                    
(June 30, 2019);  the Board of Nursing (June  30, 2019); and                                                                    
the  Alcohol Beverage  and Control  Board  (June 30,  2015).                                                                    
Added  to the  bill  are the  Big  Game Commercial  Services                                                                    
(June 30, 2016) and  Alaska Seismic Hazard Safety Commission                                                                    
(June 30, 2014).  In reference to the  Alaska Seismic Hazard                                                                    
Safety  Commission  the  audit discovered  issues  regarding                                                                    
board   members  not   attending   meetings   and  lack   of                                                                    
accomplishments.  Representative  Hawker   stated  that  the                                                                    
Acting  Legislative Auditor  was  available  to discuss  the                                                                    
report.  He  noted  that  the  Department  of  Military  and                                                                    
Veterans Affairs  believed the commission did  serve a valid                                                                    
purpose, but  recognized it  was not working  as well  as it                                                                    
could.  The  proposed  shorter  extension  is  to  give  the                                                                    
commission an  opportunity to repair their  actions. Section                                                                    
VII established a statute that  stated there could not be an                                                                    
omnibus reauthorization bill.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  asked  if  the  governor's  veto  in  the                                                                    
previous  session  expressed  a  concern  over  the  omnibus                                                                    
nature  of the  bills. Representative  Hawker indicated  the                                                                    
governor did  not express  any concerns.  The item  at issue                                                                    
was to  not mix policy  calls with the  simple administrable                                                                    
activity of  extending the dates  of board  and commissions.                                                                    
The Senate added a provision  that was a policy call related                                                                    
to one  board involving  judicial matters that  the governor                                                                    
felt  had  not  been  previously  vetted  in  any  judiciary                                                                    
committee  and, therefore,  it was  inappropriate to  pass a                                                                    
bill with the policy call.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:43:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze   expressed  his  approval  of   the  more                                                                    
professional    approach    to   the    extension    matter.                                                                    
Representative   Hawker   noted   again  that   the   Acting                                                                    
Legislative Auditor  was available  to answer  any questions                                                                    
regarding  the  audits.   He  applauded  former  Legislative                                                                    
Auditor,  Pat Davidson,  for her  years of  service. In  the                                                                    
interim,  Kris  Curtis   was  appointed  Acting  Legislative                                                                    
Auditor by the Legislative Budget and Audit Committee.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:46:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg  took issue with the  comment that                                                                    
it  was  difficult to  find  board  members for  the  Alaska                                                                    
Seismic  Hazard  Safety  Commission.   He  noted  that  just                                                                    
because  the  governor  does not  want  to  appoint  certain                                                                    
people  to  the  board  does  not mean  there  are  not  any                                                                    
interested  or qualified  individuals to  serve. He  relayed                                                                    
that people  in the  industry want  to participate  and have                                                                    
waited to  be appointed. He  pointed out that some  items in                                                                    
audit report  had nothing  to do with  the board  itself. He                                                                    
questioned  if  any  board  members  had  responded  to  the                                                                    
report.  He emphasized  the importance  of  a seismic  board                                                                    
especially  in   setting  up  seismic  codes   for  building                                                                    
construction. The  insurance industry supports  the activity                                                                    
of  the commission.  Before the  commission was  established                                                                    
the seismic  reports generated from California  which placed                                                                    
Alaska into  one seismic region.  For Alaska to  control its                                                                    
own  destiny and  understand  seismic  activity the  seismic                                                                    
board  is  important  to  the   state.  He  indicated  being                                                                    
troubled by  the boards extension  of only two  years versus                                                                    
four years.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:50:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  informed  there had  been  discussion  to                                                                    
eliminate  the seismic  commission  entirely; therefore  the                                                                    
two year  extension was a compromise  by the administration.                                                                    
Representative  Hawker  added there  should  not  only be  a                                                                    
seismic commission, but a  functioning and effective seismic                                                                    
commission. He  stood by the  state auditor's review  of the                                                                    
board.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:51:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze requested  the Acting  Legislative Auditor                                                                    
join Representative Hawker at the table for discussion.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
KRIS CURTIS,  ACTING LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR,  LEGISLATIVE AUDIT                                                                    
DIVISION,  summarized  the  audit  recommendations  for  the                                                                    
Alaska Seismic  Hazard Safety Commission board.  The purpose                                                                    
of the  audit was to  determine if the commission  should be                                                                    
extended.  It   was  determined  that  the   commission  was                                                                    
operating  effectively and  serving  a  public purpose.  The                                                                    
audit recommended the commission  be extended until June 30,                                                                    
2016.  Four  recommendations  were  made to  the  board:  to                                                                    
develop a strategic plan to  mitigate seismic hazard risk in                                                                    
Alaska,  to develop  procedures to  insure public  notice of                                                                    
meetings  were  published  in a  timely  manner,  to  follow                                                                    
procedures for  habitually  absent members, and to recommend                                                                    
to the  governor that open  positions be filled in  a timely                                                                    
method.  Representative  Stoltze  noted the  state  auditors                                                                    
focus on one  board and that was the reason  for the shorter                                                                    
extension.  Ms. Curtis  noted the  legislative audit  office                                                                    
recommended a four year extension for the commission.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:53:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair  Fairclough  spoke  about  the  board  attendance                                                                    
issue  and understood  that one  board  member, missing  for                                                                    
three  consecutive  meetings, was  working  in  the Gulf  of                                                                    
Mexico. She  believed the  absence was  an exception  to the                                                                    
rule and  not the board  standard. She wondered  if everyone                                                                    
else  on  the  board  was in  attendance  during  that  time                                                                    
period.  She  questioned  if  the  auditor's  recommendation                                                                    
concerned  the  one individual's  absence  or  a history  of                                                                    
absenteeism within the board.  Ms. Curtis responded that the                                                                    
commission's own policy  recommended replacement after three                                                                    
absences and  the one individual missed  ten. The commission                                                                    
did  not   recommend  termination,  but  waited   until  the                                                                    
individual's term  was completed  in 2012.  Co-Chair Stoltze                                                                    
asked if  this was  a systemic problem  or a  single problem                                                                    
within  the board.  Vice-chair  Fairclough  asked about  the                                                                    
time  frame for  the ten  absences. Ms.  Curtis replied  the                                                                    
absences were over year and  a half period. Co-Chair Stoltze                                                                    
questioned again  if the attendance issue  only reflected on                                                                    
one  person. Ms.  Curtis replied  it reflected  on only  one                                                                    
person.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:55:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg asked  what relationship  all the                                                                    
boards  have with  the governor  in filling  the seats.  Ms.                                                                    
Curtis indicated that the recommendation  to the governor to                                                                    
fill  open   seats  in   a  timely   manner  was   a  common                                                                    
recommendation made in many  sunset reports. An insufficient                                                                    
applicant   pool  is   often  the   cause  for   delay.  The                                                                    
recommendation  is for  the governor's  office to  work with                                                                    
the  commission   because  the   board  can  be   active  in                                                                    
generating  an  applicant  pool.  Representative  Guttenberg                                                                    
wondered if  outside the recommendation  for the  one absent                                                                    
member,  had there  been  a problem  with  quorums or  other                                                                    
absent  board  members. Ms.  Curtis  replied  that the  only                                                                    
documentation  indicated  one  position was  open  for  nine                                                                    
months and one member  was habitually absent. Representative                                                                    
Guttenberg asked if  the governor had names,  but simply did                                                                    
not  make   the  appointment.   Ms.  Curtis   reported  that                                                                    
documentation  indicated  an  insufficient  applicant  pool.                                                                    
Representative  Guttenberg asked  if  there  was a  required                                                                    
number needed  in the applicant  pool. He believed  the only                                                                    
need was for at least one qualified individual.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:57:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL  O'HARE,  DEPUTY   DIRECTOR  OF  HOMELAND  SECURITY,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT   OF   MILITARY   AND   VETERANS   AFFAIRS   (via                                                                    
teleconference), voiced  his support for the  Alaska Seismic                                                                    
and  Hazard   Commission.  The  state  relies   on  industry                                                                    
professionals who donate their  time to provide good science                                                                    
information. He  encouraged support  of the  commission. Co-                                                                    
Chair Stoltze  asked if there  was any objection to  the two                                                                    
year extension.  Mr. O'Hare supported  a two  year extension                                                                    
rather than doing away with the commission.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:00:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEAN   MAXWELL,    AGENT,   STATE   FARM    INSURANCE   (via                                                                    
teleconference), voiced  his support  of HB  279, especially                                                                    
the   reauthorization   of   the   Alaska   Seismic   Hazard                                                                    
Commission.  He related  the ongoing  important work  of the                                                                    
commission.  As an  insurance provider,  he understands  the                                                                    
significant  impact  on  people  and  their  lives  after  a                                                                    
seismic  event. The  role of  an insurance  position on  the                                                                    
seismic board is  vital to the commission  that is currently                                                                    
involved in  working with the insurance  division to provide                                                                    
a  public  information  brochure  on  earthquake  insurance.                                                                    
Without  the  commission,  the  voice  from  many  different                                                                    
important sources would not be available.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:04:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN   AHO,  CHAIR,   SEISMIC  HAZARDS   SAFETY  COMMISSION,                                                                    
declared his  service on  the board  for the  Alaska Seismic                                                                    
Hazard  Commission   and  was  disturbed  by   some  of  the                                                                    
comments. He  testified in support  of the extension  of the                                                                    
commission. In response to the  audit report, the commission                                                                    
is currently  developing a strategic plan.  He explained the                                                                    
board had  a plan that was  referred to as a  "charter." The                                                                    
charter meeting  established a vision, mission,  goals, core                                                                    
values, and  measures of  success for  the board.  The board                                                                    
has  been  operating  under  the   charter  for  years.  The                                                                    
strategic  plan  is  extremely   important  for  long  range                                                                    
commitments. In the area of  seismic risk mitigation, a plan                                                                    
cannot  evolve overnight.  Dependable scientific  back-up is                                                                    
needed before  good decisions can  be made. He  stressed the                                                                    
need of  not recommending policies as  unfunded mandates. He                                                                    
admitted that  there could be  an improvement  in publishing                                                                    
notices  in  a  timely  manner.   The  staff  has  now  been                                                                    
instructed to  have notices published  at least one  week in                                                                    
advance.  Regarding the  recommendation  to replace  members                                                                    
who  have  missed meetings,  the  bi-laws  state that  three                                                                    
consecutively unexcused board  meetings meant expulsion; the                                                                    
missing person  went to the Gulf  of Mexico for a  one and a                                                                    
half  year  project.   He  agreed  it  was   remiss  of  the                                                                    
commission  not to  recommend a  replacement for  the absent                                                                    
member. He noted that in  assisting the governor's office to                                                                    
fill positions, there is a  line-item for interested parties                                                                    
who   might   want  to   serve.   He   believed  the   audit                                                                    
recommendations were helpful, but did  not rise to the level                                                                    
to discontinue the board. He  spoke of successful goals made                                                                    
by the commission.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:09:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Aho  continued that the commission  is currently working                                                                    
with FEMA in  Kodiak on an earthquake  planning scenario. He                                                                    
would  like to  continue the  process with  other cities  in                                                                    
Alaska.  He  noted  yearly  presentations  given  throughout                                                                    
Alaska by  the commission  to discuss  earthquake mitigation                                                                    
and spoke  of the  dedicated meetings  of the  volunteers on                                                                    
the board.  Co-Chair Stoltze emphasized that  the Department                                                                    
of Natural Resources  should have been more  involved in the                                                                    
audit  process.  He stressed  no  fault  with the  volunteer                                                                    
members of the  board. Mr. Aho remarked  that the Department                                                                    
of Natural  Resources support has  been very  good. Co-Chair                                                                    
Stoltze interjected that the department  was only lacking in                                                                    
the  process.  Representative  Doogan  emphasized  that  the                                                                    
purpose  of  the  audits  was   intended  to  determine  any                                                                    
shortcomings and to help the commission fix any problems.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:14:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SAM KITO,  TECHNICAL ENGINEER,  DEPARTMENT OF  EDUCATION AND                                                                    
EARLY DEVELOPMENT, read a prepared statement:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The Department of Education and Early Development                                                                          
     (DEED) began working with the Alaska Seismic Hazard                                                                        
     Safety Commission in January 2009.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     As the department's appointed representative on the                                                                        
     Schools    Committee,    I   have    participated    in                                                                    
     teleconferences and have occasionally been able to                                                                         
     participate in the Commission's face-to-face meetings.                                                                     
     During the time that I have been working with the                                                                          
     Commission, they have assisted the department in our                                                                       
     efforts to address seismic safety of schools in the                                                                        
     state.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     As you are aware, in many communities in Alaska the                                                                        
     school buildings are designated as emergency shelters,                                                                     
     and where they are not specifically designated                                                                             
     many schools end up serving that function due to their                                                                     
     size and location. Because of these reasons, it is                                                                         
     vitally important for the schools to be constructed                                                                        
     in such a manner as to make them useful during                                                                             
     emergencies.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     As you are also aware, DEED administers the School                                                                         
     Construction and Major Maintenance grant and Bond Debt                                                                     
     reimbursement programs. Through these programs, the                                                                        
     department prioritizes school capital projects for                                                                         
     construction, addition, renovation and repair of                                                                           
     school buildings in the state.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The Commission has provided valuable insight and                                                                           
     productive comments as the department developed                                                                            
     revisions   to   the    Capital   Improvement   Project                                                                    
     Application.   These   changes   allow   districts   to                                                                    
     separately include costs for seismic investigation and                                                                     
     design in a project request and provide districts with                                                                     
     guidance on the types of costs to include in the                                                                           
     seismic hazard budget category.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The commission also developed a ground acceleration                                                                        
     listing of school facilities for the department that                                                                       
     is currently posted on the DEED School Facilities                                                                          
     website along with a map produced by the Commission                                                                        
     that graphically shows the expected peak ground                                                                            
     acceleration for the various areas of the state. This                                                                      
     information can be combined with other information                                                                         
     such as building age and construction type to help                                                                         
     school districts determine the relative risk of their                                                                      
     facilities to seismic events. This information could                                                                       
     not have been developed by department staff because we                                                                     
     lack the necessary expertise.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     In summary, the Department of Education and Early                                                                          
     Development has benefitted from the existence of the                                                                       
     Alaska Seismic Hazard Safety Commission, and supports                                                                      
     extension of the Commission.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Costello asked if  charter schools in private                                                                    
rented  buildings  were  inspected. Mr.  Kito  replied  that                                                                    
charter schools were  leased by the charter  or the district                                                                    
and  codes are  not enforced  for those  facilities. If  the                                                                    
facilities  are purchased  by  the district  to  serve as  a                                                                    
district facility for the charter,  then those schools would                                                                    
need to meet current codes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:18:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHIRLEY  GIFFORD,  DIRECTOR,  ALCOHOL BEVERAGE  AND  CONTROL                                                                    
BOARD,   DEPARTMENT  OF   PUBLIC   SAFETY,  understood   the                                                                    
importance  of the  board's  ending on  June  30, 2012.  She                                                                    
supported  the continuation  of the  ABC Board  remarking on                                                                    
many  positive changes  made within  the  board. She  formed                                                                    
that  she  had distributed  a  survey  in response  to  some                                                                    
reported dissatisfactions with the  board and received an 18                                                                    
percent  return response.  The licensing  staff  of the  ABC                                                                    
Board  scored   "Above  Average"  to   "Superior."  Co-Chair                                                                    
Stoltze remarked  that some of Ms.  Gifford's comments would                                                                    
be best  saved for the  next bill's discussion.  Ms. Gifford                                                                    
remarked  that the  board met  all the  requirements of  the                                                                    
audit and reconciled with the state system.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:23:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATE  BURKHART,   EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,  ADVISORY   BOARD  ON                                                                    
ALCOHOLISM AND  DRUG ABUSE, DEPARTMENT OF  HEALTH AND SOCIAL                                                                    
SERVICES,  supported  HB  279   extension  for  the  Alcohol                                                                    
Beverage and Control Board to 2015.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:25:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROD COMBELLICK, OPERATIONS MANAGER,  DIVISON OF GEOLOGIC AND                                                                    
GEOPHYSICAL  SURVEYS,   DEPARTMENT  OF   NATURAL  RESOURCES,                                                                    
referred  to a  handout  entitled,  "Alaska Seismic  Hazards                                                                    
Safety Commission"  (copy on file.)  He noted  the statutory                                                                    
mission  of the  commission  recommending goals,  priorities                                                                    
and policies  to the governor  and legislature.  He referred                                                                    
to  the  membership  listed  on   page  one  and  the  broad                                                                    
expertise  represented.  Out  of the  eleven  members,  only                                                                    
three were from  the state or federal  government; the other                                                                    
members   represent   the   private  sector.   Three   local                                                                    
representatives are  from seismically active regions  of the                                                                    
state that  provide input to  the commission on  their areas                                                                    
and have the ability  to react to commission recommendations                                                                    
for seismic risk  mitigation. He also referred  to the three                                                                    
highly respected  public members with  earthquake expertise.                                                                    
John  Aho, one  of the  public members  recently received  a                                                                    
life-time  achievement award  by the  Western State  Seismic                                                                    
Policy Council. Another member from  the private sector is a                                                                    
world-renowned  highly respected  consulting geologist  from                                                                    
Kodiak who also has years  of experience in "active faults."                                                                    
In the early 70s, the Kodiak  geologist was on the team that                                                                    
mapped  the  Denali Fault  before  the  Alaska Pipeline  was                                                                    
built  across  it.   As  a  result  of   the  knowledge  and                                                                    
prediction that  the fault area  would one day  experience a                                                                    
magnitude   8  earthquake;   the  pipeline   was  built   to                                                                    
accommodate the possibility. In  2002, there was a magnitude                                                                    
7.9 earthquake  on that fault, but  no oil was spilt  due to                                                                    
their work.  He referred to the  map on page 2,  showing the                                                                    
known  active and  potentially active  faults in  Alaska. On                                                                    
page 3,  the map  shows the  22,096 earthquakes  recorded in                                                                    
Alaska   for  an   eleven  month   period  in   2011.  Often                                                                    
earthquakes  occur in  non-populated  areas, but  eventually                                                                    
earthquakes hit a populated  area with serious consequences.                                                                    
The  U. S.  map on  page 4,  reflects the  predicted average                                                                    
annual   earthquake   loss   ratio.  Alaska   ranks   second                                                                    
nationally  in  predicted  average  Annual  Earthquake  Loss                                                                    
Ratio.   All  the   "red"  states   have  seismic   advisory                                                                    
commissions, as well as some  of the "yellow" states. Alaska                                                                    
Earthquake Facts  listed on page  5, points out  that Alaska                                                                    
has had an average of  one "great" earthquake every thirteen                                                                    
years.   The  final  page lists  the significant  commission                                                                    
accomplishments since the  2006 reauthorization. He surmised                                                                    
that a lot of the  accomplishments were not reflected in the                                                                    
audit  since  they  had  been   stated  as  "goals"  by  the                                                                    
commission.  He  stressed the  great  job  performed by  the                                                                    
commission.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:33:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  responded  that comments  have  not  been                                                                    
against the commission, but the  department. He noted if Mr.                                                                    
Combellick had  shown up and  commented at the  hearings; it                                                                    
would have  alleviated some  of the  problems. There  was no                                                                    
criticism of the commission.  Vice-chair Fairclough asked if                                                                    
meetings  were  scheduled  with Representative  Hawker.  Mr.                                                                    
Combellick responded  there were  no current  meeting plans,                                                                    
but he would be available in Juneau all afternoon.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:36:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Costello asked  if going  from a  charter to                                                                    
strategic  plan was  a  significant  change. Mr.  Combellick                                                                    
believed that  the strategic plan  would expand  and provide                                                                    
valuable details on the charter.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:37:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hawker   contended  that  some   testimony  seemed                                                                    
defensive. He  emphasized there was  no plan to  abolish the                                                                    
seismic board  or to denigrate  their work. He  affirmed the                                                                    
legislature's  responsibility  to  make certain  that  state                                                                    
assets  are  effectively  applied with  the  most  efficient                                                                    
operations.   The  legislative   audit   just  pointed   out                                                                    
necessary improvements  in some of  the boards. It is  not a                                                                    
personal issue. The two year  extension is an opportunity to                                                                    
revisit  the operations  in a  shorter period  of time.  Co-                                                                    
Chair Stoltze  remarked on the  committee's intent  to bring                                                                    
back  the fiscal  notes  to  make sure  they  are clear  and                                                                    
separate. The Chair closed public hearing.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HB  279  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:40:18 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:50:26 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 279 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 2/20/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 279
HB 279 Sectional.pdf HFIN 2/20/2012 1:30:00 PM
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HB 279 Background.pdf HFIN 2/20/2012 1:30:00 PM
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HB279-NEW FN-DPS-ABC-02-13-12.pdf HFIN 2/20/2012 1:30:00 PM
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HB279-NEW FN-DCCED-CBPL-02-17-12.pdf HFIN 2/20/2012 1:30:00 PM
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HB125CS(L&C)-UpdatedFN-DPS-ABC-02-13-12.pdf HFIN 2/20/2012 1:30:00 PM
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HB125-DCCED-ABC-02-17-12-Updated fn.pdf HFIN 2/20/2012 1:30:00 PM
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HB279 ASHSC_Feb2012_annual_report.pdf HFIN 2/20/2012 1:30:00 PM
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HB 279 ASHSC brief DGGS.pdf HFIN 2/20/2012 1:30:00 PM
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HB279 CS WORKDRAFT 27-LS0944-I.pdf HFIN 2/20/2012 1:30:00 PM
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HB125-DCCED-ASD-02-20-12-UPDATED-NEW.pdf HFIN 2/20/2012 1:30:00 PM
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HB 125 AMHTA Opposition Documents 2-20-12 HFIN.pdf HFIN 2/20/2012 1:30:00 PM
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HB 125 National Council Handout Report-Opposition 2-20-12.pdf HFIN 2/20/2012 1:30:00 PM
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HB 279 Kito Testimony 2.20.12.pdf HFIN 2/20/2012 1:30:00 PM
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